My vehicle exhibits a noticeable shaking throughout the chassis and the steering wheel, but only at speeds between 40kph-65kph. At the top end, the shaking/vibrations smooth out and disappear.

Since filling up the gas tnk, the shaking/vibes are more pronounced.

Anyone have/had any similar experience?

Could it be a imbalance? a broken belt in a tire? axle? other?

I'm getting new rims installed (+ previous winter tires). I'm hoping either the rims or tires were at fault.
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Re: between 40kph-65kph
By: Ogg to All on Wed Oct 13 2021 12:46 pm

My vehicle exhibits a noticeable shaking throughout the chassis and the steering wheel, but only at speeds between 40kph-65kph. At the top end, the shaking/vibrations smooth out and disappea

Since filling up the gas tnk, the shaking/vibes are more pronounced.

Anyone have/had any similar experience?

Could it be a imbalance? a broken belt in a tire? axle? other?

I'm getting new rims installed (+ previous winter tires). I'm hoping either the rims or tires were at fault.

Typically those issues mean some wheel is missaligned. It is very common.

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Hello Ogg;

Ogg wrote to All <=-

My vehicle exhibits a noticeable shaking throughout the chassis and the steering wheel, but only at speeds between 40kph-65kph. At the top end, the shaking/vibrations smooth out and disappear.

This is typically signs of tires or wheels. You will notice the displeasures around 40Mph and by typical freeway speeds the tires/wheels will be spinning
at such a rate where it "feels" to have smoothened out. Also verify your air pressure is equal amongst tires that could make then feel off balance.

Good luck!

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Hello Arelor!

** On Wednesday 13.10.21 - 14:59, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

Anyone have/had any similar experience?

Could it be a imbalance? a broken belt in a tire? axle? other?

I'm getting new rims installed (+ previous winter tires).
I'm hoping either the rims or tires were at fault.

Typically those issues mean some wheel is missaligned. It
is very common.

But at missalignment typically causes the steering to pull to
one side, doesn't it? That's not happening. My vehicle cruises
straight and true.


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Re: between 40kph-65kph
By: Ogg to Arelor on Thu Oct 14 2021 05:44 pm

Hello Arelor!

** On Wednesday 13.10.21 - 14:59, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

Anyone have/had any similar experience?

Could it be a imbalance? a broken belt in a tire? axle? other?

I'm getting new rims installed (+ previous winter tires).
I'm hoping either the rims or tires were at fault.

Typically those issues mean some wheel is missaligned. It
is very common.

But at missalignment typically causes the steering to pull to
one side, doesn't it? That's not happening. My vehicle cruises
straight and true.

Nah, I never had a missalignment pull the steering will one way or another. I had it shake like a
Parkinson granddaddy on cocaine when it ran at 90-100 kmph.

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Nah, I never had a missalignment pull the steering will one way or another. I had it shake like a
Parkinson granddaddy on cocaine when it ran at 90-100 kmph.

I worked at a tire shop while I was in college. Misalighnement would pull either left or right when you took your hands off the wheel depending on
which side was out of alighnment. When we would road test cars the rule of thumb was if the steering wheel shakes it is a front tire, if you feel it in the seat of your pants it was the back tires. When we would mount new tires
on a car or truck we would use a on car spin balancer. You would place a
device behind the wheel you were working on and when you spun the tire up a stobe light would show you where the imbalance was on the tire. You were actually balancing the tire,wheel, and brake drum at the same time. Results were a very smooth ride at speed. When computer balancing came in the only thing getting balanced were the wheel and tire.

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Hello rojo!

** On Monday 18.10.21 - 12:03, rojo wrote to Arelor:

Nah, I never had a missalignment pull the steering will one way or
another. I had it shake [...]

I worked at a tire shop while I was in college. Misalighnement would pull either left or right when you took your hands off the wheel depending on which side was out of alighnment.

Good. I do hope the shaking is caused by the rims or the tires.
I'm get both replaced THIS Friday! :D New rims. Previously
existing winter tires from storage.

I'm probably going to do away with the summer tires that are
currently on the vehicle. Someone told me that a damaged belt
in a tire could attribute to the shaking too.

When we would road test cars the rule of
thumb was if the steering wheel shakes it is a front tire, if you feel it in the seat of your pants it was the back tires.

It's hard for me to tell. Maybe the problem is at least two
rims or tires! I can feel the vibes a bit in the steering
wheel, but it seems like the whole chassis is affected. It's
more pronounced since filling up my tank.


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Hello rojo!

** On Monday 18.10.21 - 12:03, rojo wrote to Arelor:

Nah, I never had a missalignment pull the steering will one way or
another. I had it shake [...]

I worked at a tire shop while I was in college.

Misalighnement would pull

either left or right when you took your hands off
the wheel depending on
which side was out of alighnment.

Good. I do hope the shaking is caused by the rims or the tires.
I'm get both replaced THIS Friday! :D New rims. Previously
existing winter tires from storage.

I'm probably going to do away with the summer tires that are
currently on the vehicle. Someone told me that a damaged belt
in a tire could attribute to the shaking too.

When we would road test cars the rule of
thumb was if the steering wheel shakes it is a front
tire, if you feel it
in the seat of your pants it was the back tires.

It's hard for me to tell. Maybe the problem is at least two
rims or tires! I can feel the vibes a bit in the steering
wheel, but it seems like the whole chassis is affected. It's
more pronounced since filling up my tank.

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Did you ever find the cause of the shaking and if so what finally was the solution?


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Hello Cletus!

** On Tuesday 02.11.21 - 09:37, Cletus wrote to Ogg:

It's hard for me to tell. Maybe the problem is at least
two rims or tires! I can feel the vibes a bit in the
steering wheel, but it seems like the whole chassis is
affected. It's more pronounced since filling up my tank.

Did you ever find the cause of the shaking and if so what
finally was the solution?

No.

The new rims are on. And the previous tires have been replaced
with winter tires.

After the rim/tire work, I drove off thinking that there was no
more shaking/vibes, but it was still there. The only
difference was that the shaking/vibes were much less - but I
think that was attributed to the gas tank being 1/2 empty,
compared to the first time I really noticed a problem when the
tank was full.

The tank is nearly empty, and the problem is less noticeable.

I am due to fill the tank again tomorrow. I am predicting that
the shaking/vibes will be more noticeable, once again.

I described the circumstances with the garage tech, and he said
"it could still a lot of things.. even the differential."

But I have no more desire to dole out even more money on
investigative inspection. The cost of new rear springs,
shocks, clippers, rotors, muffler and a new brake-line kit, a
couple months ago has set me back quite a bit.

Most of the road surfaces are on the rough side now due to the
quick pothole patches, so that part masks the original problem
a bit.

I can limit my driving to under 40kph or higher than 65kph and
the shakes are not present at all.

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Hello phigan!

** On Friday 22.10.21 - 22:14, phigan wrote to Arelor:

Nah, I never had a missalignment pull the steering will
one way or another. I had it shake like a Parkinson
granddaddy on cocaine when it ran at 90-100 kmph.

I think terms are getting mixed up here. When a front end
is missaligned, the car will pull to one side or the other.
When a wheel is out of balance, the car will shake.. and as
someone pointed out, steering wheel shaking is a front tire
out of balance while the seat/car shaking is a rear tire
out of balance. Individual wheels should not get
missaligned :). Just unbalanced.

Update.. After the new rims (and an existing set of winter
tires) were installed, there was still SOME shaking in the kph
range mentioned above. But.. over time, it has now disappeared
entirely. So.. perhaps the original shaking as due to
imbalance caused by the extra lead pieces that may have fallen
off?

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entirely. So.. perhaps the original shaking as due to
imbalance caused by the extra lead pieces that may have fallen
off?

That sounds most probable and likely. I think it's normal that your initial/slight shaking with new tires went away once they got "worn in" a bit.

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