• Re: Windows & Unix?

    From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Ryan Fantus on Fri Feb 24 18:50:45 2023
    Re: Re: Windows & Unix?
    By: Ryan Fantus to Nightfox on Fri Feb 24 2023 06:24 pm

    I had an idea yesterday though.. I thought about setting up a VM
    running OS/2 or maybe ArcaOS and running my old DOS-based
    RemoteAccess BBS as a game server in it with some DOS door games,

    Yeah, I actually did this ... sort of. I had a win7 32 bit VM running in a completely firewalled environment. I actually used Synchronet which worked well as a door server, and passing users off to the doors was completely transparent to users - they launched a door on my linux BBS and were

    I had my BBS running in a Windows 7 VM for a while (in Linux), but I didn't want to have to run the Windows VM anymore. The other day, I was thinknig of using OS/2 or ArcaOS because I think their system requirements are lighter than Windows.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Ryan Fantus on Fri Feb 24 22:38:41 2023
    Re: Re: Windows & Unix?
    By: Ryan Fantus to Nightfox on Fri Feb 24 2023 06:22 pm

    A while ago, I thought of trying to use ReactOS for that purpose, and I had set up a ReactOS VM, but it didn't seem to work quite as well as actual Windows.

    Yeah, I suspect the actual use case for ReactOS at this point is pretty limited when things like pcem and other strong emulation platforms exist which run at are above any of the native speeds that we ever were able to

    from when reactos started.... lemme look it up: 1998!
    reactOS has been useless other than being a platform that looks like windows xp and runs calc and notepad.

    it's one step above vaporware.

    Still, every 5 years or so i see people talking about it.
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  • From Ryan Fantus@1:218/820 to Nightfox on Fri Feb 24 23:08:22 2023
    I had my BBS running in a Windows 7 VM for a while (in Linux), but I didn't want to have to run the Windows VM anymore. The other day, I was thinknig of using OS/2 or ArcaOS because I think their system
    requirements are lighter than Windows.

    The problem I ran into with that line of thinking was that I don't know of any rlogin-direct-to-doorgame type solution (synchronet, gamesrv) that would function in ArcaOS.

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  • From Nightfox@1:103/705 to Ryan Fantus on Sat Feb 25 00:02:29 2023
    Re: Re: Windows & Unix?
    By: Ryan Fantus to Nightfox on Fri Feb 24 2023 11:08 pm

    was thinking of using OS/2 or ArcaOS because I think their system
    requirements are lighter than Windows.

    The problem I ran into with that line of thinking was that I don't know of any rlogin-direct-to-doorgame type solution (synchronet, gamesrv) that would function in ArcaOS.

    Yeah, you'd probably have to use telnet for that. I'm not sure of an OS/2 BBS package that support RLogin.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@1:103/705 to Nightfox on Sat Feb 25 11:09:36 2023
    Re: Re: Windows & Unix?
    By: Nightfox to Ryan Fantus on Sat Feb 25 2023 12:02 am


    Yeah, you'd probably have to use telnet for that. I'm not sure of an OS/2 BBS package that support RLogin.


    someone could write one. there's still a few bbs os2 neckbeards around.
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  • From tmcca@1:103/705 to Ryan Fantus on Sat Feb 25 09:37:30 2023
    This is what I did. You can configure Synchronet to listen for inbound rlogin in Windows. It can then auto-create the user account and auto-launch the door for that user. It works great.

    Thing is, maintaining Windows 7 was becoming a real headache, so I decided to move back to using dosemu2 :)

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    That is what I am interested in. How is that done? I am a newbie at this :(
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  • From tmcca@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sat Feb 25 10:31:29 2023
    Re: Windows & Unix?
    By: tmcca to Digital Man on Fri Feb 24 2023 01:34 pm

    You would run an instance of Synchronet on Windows and an instance of Synchronet on Linux (as I posted before, but you didn't quote that part of the message). The 2 instances would share the same sbbs tree (e.g. using SMB/Samba, or possibly NFS). Users that want to play DOS door games would connect to the Windows instance at a different hostname, IP address, or port number than the Linux instance. Users that didn't care about DOS door games would connect to the Linux instance. Each instance would use a separate sbbs.ini file that specified the node range it would service: wiki.synchro.net/config:ini_files#filenaming

    All other configuration and data files would be shared between the 2 instaces. --
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    Synchronet "Real Fact" #30:
    The COM I/O routines for Synchronet for DOS were written in ASM by Steve Deppe Norco, CA WX: 49.1°F, 87.0% humidity, 3 mph ENE wind, 0.12 inches rain/24hrs


    I am trying to see if this is correct.
    I installed Synchronet on Windows C:\sbbs and on Linux /sbbs
    I used samba and mounted it on my linux drive /sbbs like so sudo mount.cifs //GAMEPC/sbbs /sbbs -o user=sbbs,uid=$UID

    in linux my sbbs.ini is named sbbs.linux.ini and nodes first 1 last 10 in . Windows its sbbs.ini and nodes I have in there first 11
    and last 15

    sorry for all the questions, I am new to this.
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  • From Ryan Fantus@1:218/820 to tmcca on Sat Feb 25 10:40:35 2023
    This is what I did. You can configure Synchronet to listen for inbound r in Windows. It can then auto-create the user account and auto-launch the for that user. It works great.

    That is what I am interested in. How is that done? I am a newbie at this

    Check out this reddit thread, DigitalMan's comment in particular:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/bbs/comments/10eet5j/synchronet_game_server/

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  • From tmcca@1:103/705 to Ryan Fantus on Sat Feb 25 10:55:04 2023
    Check out this reddit thread, DigitalMan's comment in particular:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/bbs/comments/10eet5j/synchronet_game_server/

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    On Windows I edited modopts.ini to rlogin_xtrn_menu = true

    How i call rlogin to lets say lord for example. In xtrnmenu put in commandline ?rlogin <host address> lord
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to tmcca on Sat Feb 25 12:13:44 2023
    Re: Windows & Unix?
    By: tmcca to Digital Man on Sat Feb 25 2023 10:31 am


    Re: Windows & Unix?
    By: tmcca to Digital Man on Fri Feb 24 2023 01:34 pm

    You would run an instance of Synchronet on Windows and an instance of Synchronet on Linux (as I posted before, but you didn't quote that part of the message). The 2 instances would share the same sbbs tree (e.g. using SMB/Samba, or possibly NFS). Users that want to play DOS door games would connect to the Windows instance at a different hostname, IP address, or port number than the Linux instance. Users that didn't care about DOS door games would connect to the Linux instance. Each instance would use a separate sbbs.ini file that specified the node range it would service: wiki.synchro.net/config:ini_files#filenaming

    All other configuration and data files would be shared between the 2 instaces. --

    I am trying to see if this is correct.
    I installed Synchronet on Windows C:\sbbs and on Linux /sbbs
    I used samba and mounted it on my linux drive /sbbs like so sudo mount.cifs //GAMEPC/sbbs /sbbs -o user=sbbs,uid=$UID

    in linux my sbbs.ini is named sbbs.linux.ini and nodes first 1 last 10 in . Windows its sbbs.ini and nodes I have in there first 11
    and last 15

    sorry for all the questions, I am new to this.

    One of the 2 systems (these are running on 2 different LAN-connected computers?) needs to be the SMB server and the other the client. Myself, I make the Linux system the server, running Samba, and have the Windows system the client. So on Windows, the path to the Synchronet directory tree would not be "c:\sbbs" since that's on a local hard disk. You need to *share* the files between the 2 systems, so they need to be using the *same* files (not copies of the same files in different locations). So depending on how you map the Linux share drive, the actual Synchronet directory tree would appear as s:\sbbs or n:\sbbs or whatever drive letter your chose when you mapped the Samba share.
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to tmcca on Sat Feb 25 12:18:42 2023
    Re: Re: Windows & Unix?
    By: tmcca to Ryan Fantus on Sat Feb 25 2023 10:55 am



    Check out this reddit thread, DigitalMan's comment in particular:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/bbs/comments/10eet5j/synchronet_game_server/

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    On Windows I edited modopts.ini to rlogin_xtrn_menu = true

    How i call rlogin to lets say lord for example. In xtrnmenu put in commandline ?rlogin <host address> lord

    No. Per https://wiki.synchro.net/module:rlogin#command-line the command-line syntax is:
    ?rlogin <address>[:port] [mode] [client-name] [server-name] [terminal-type]

    So if you're passing the door's internal code ("lord"), that be passed in the terminal-type field, so it has to be the 5th argument. Plus, if you want auto-login of the user, you to supply the user's name and password, so that'd be:

    ?rlogin <host address> 0 <user password> <user name> lord
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  • From tmcca@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sat Feb 25 14:42:06 2023
    Re: Re: Windows & Unix?
    By: tmcca to Ryan Fantus on Sat Feb 25 2023 10:55 am

    No. Per https://wiki.synchro.net/module:rlogin#command-line the command-line syntax is:
    ?rlogin <address>[:port] [mode] [client-name] [server-name] [terminal-type]

    So if you're passing the door's internal code ("lord"), that be passed in the terminal-type field, so it has to be the 5th argument. Plus, if you want auto-login of the user, you to supply the user's name and password, so that'd be:

    ?rlogin <host address> 0 <user password> <user name> lord
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Rush quote #20:
    Learning that we're only immortal, for a limited time
    Norco, CA WX: 38.3°F, 98.0% humidity, 0 mph ENE wind, 0.58 inches rain/24hrs


    When I use rlogin it goes to login screen of the other bbs obviously doing something wrong here but don’t know what.
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to tmcca on Sat Feb 25 15:27:16 2023
    Re: Re: Windows & Unix?
    By: tmcca to Digital Man on Sat Feb 25 2023 02:42 pm

    When I use rlogin it goes to login screen of the other bbs obviously doing something wrong here but don't know what.

    The "other bbs" needs to be configured to auto-login new rlogin users.
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  • From tmcca@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sun Feb 26 16:09:31 2023
    I am not sure if I did this correct. I used NFS to mount Linux /sbbs from Windows. I installed Synchronet Windows onto the linux side. However, had to make it chmod 777 in order for Windows write to directory. I have two sbbs files one for linux other for windows. Setup linux nodes 1 to 10 and Windows 11 to 15. What is the permissions supposed to be on linux side, I am guessing 644 for files and 755 directory's? I am sure probably not doing it correctly.
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to tmcca on Sun Feb 26 16:46:02 2023
    Re: Re: Windows & Unix?
    By: tmcca to Digital Man on Sun Feb 26 2023 04:09 pm

    I am not sure if I did this correct. I used NFS to mount Linux /sbbs from Windows. I installed Synchronet Windows onto the linux side. However, had to make it chmod 777 in order for Windows write to directory. I have two sbbs files one for linux other for windows.

    I think you mean sbbs.exe (not sbbs) for Windows.

    Setup linux nodes 1 to 10 and Windows
    11 to 15. What is the permissions supposed to be on linux side, I am guessing 644 for files and 755 directory's? I am sure probably not doing it correctly.

    It depednds on the owner/group on the files and dirs. You'll get it if you keep at it.
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  • From tmcca@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sat Mar 4 02:27:59 2023
    Re: Re: Windows & Unix?
    By: tmcca to Digital Man on Sat Feb 25 2023 02:42 pm

    The "other bbs" needs to be configured to auto-login new rlogin users.
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    XJS = External JavaScript (SSJS embedded within HTML/CSS)
    Norco, CA WX: 44.7°F, 99.0% humidity, 0 mph NE wind, 0.62 inches rain/24hrs



    where is that setting at? Is it in sbbs.ini file?
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to tmcca on Sat Mar 4 12:59:10 2023
    Re: Re: Windows & Unix?
    By: tmcca to Digital Man on Sat Mar 04 2023 02:27 am


    Re: Re: Windows & Unix?
    By: tmcca to Digital Man on Sat Feb 25 2023 02:42 pm

    The "other bbs" needs to be configured to auto-login new rlogin users.

    where is that setting at? Is it in sbbs.ini file?

    If the "other bbs" is a Synchronet BBS, then it'll start the new user registration process automatically when an Rlogin client connects with a username that's not in the user base. The only 'setting' to enable that behavior is having the BBS not closed to new users.
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  • From tmcca@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Sat Mar 4 13:22:46 2023
    Re: Re: Windows & Unix?
    By: tmcca to Digital Man on Sat Mar 04 2023 02:27 am

    If the "other bbs" is a Synchronet BBS, then it'll start the new user registration process automatically when an Rlogin client connects with a username that's not in the user base. The only 'setting' to enable that behavior is having the BBS not closed to new users.
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    digital man (rob)

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #89:
    Rob played drums on the LP "Weedpuller" available for digital purchase/stream Norco, CA WX: 55.8°F, 64.0% humidity, 5 mph SE wind, 0.01 inches rain/24hrs


    I think the other BBS I have to toggle the new user questions to be off I think thats issue maybe?
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to tmcca on Sat Mar 4 13:26:29 2023
    Re: Re: Windows & Unix?
    By: tmcca to Digital Man on Sat Mar 04 2023 01:22 pm


    Re: Re: Windows & Unix?
    By: tmcca to Digital Man on Sat Mar 04 2023 02:27 am

    If the "other bbs" is a Synchronet BBS, then it'll start the new user registration process automatically when an Rlogin client connects with a username that's not in the user base. The only 'setting' to enable that behavior is having the BBS not closed to new users.

    I think the other BBS I have to toggle the new user questions to be off I think thats issue maybe?

    Just make sure it's not closed to new users. If you can login as "new" via Telnet, then it should be goood to go for newusers via RLogin as well.
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