It looks like the FCC has granted an experimental license to operate on several microwave bands and 70cm to AST @ Science FSC.

They will use 70cm for ground to space telemetry data.

I find it strange that I can not find anything by the ARRL on this. The last threat I rememeber to the 70cm band back in the late 90s and early 2000s with what was called the "Little LEOs", the ARRL was all over opposing this. Where is the ARRL lobbying arm?

The 70CM band is extremely popular in high population areas like Southern California. Most mobile and handheld radios that are sold also include 70cm.

What are you thoughts on this? Will this make 440Mhz (70cm) go the way of 1.25m (220Mhz?).

Why has the ARRL been silent on this? One of their selling points is that they are the largest lobby for HAM radio. They really do seem to be doing less and less but charge more. Time to not renew our memberships?

73,

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Rug Rat wrote to All <=-

It looks like the FCC has granted an experimental license to operate
on several microwave bands and 70cm to AST @ Science FSC.

Most likely, hams are still ther primary authorization on the band.

They will use 70cm for ground to space telemetry data.

The 70CM band is extremely popular in high population areas like
Southern California. Most mobile and handheld radios that are sold
also include 70cm.

My ham club is putting up a 220 repeater in our area.

Why has the ARRL been silent on this? One of their selling points is
that they are the largest lobby for HAM radio. They really do seem to
be doing less and less but charge more. Time to not renew our memberships?

I haven't renewed my ARRL membership in 10 years and I don't know any
hams who are current ARRL members.

73.
Sean
KS4TD/WSBW961

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Re: Will we lose 70cm?
By: Rug Rat to All on Fri Jul 25 2025 20:16:50

What are you thoughts on this? Will this make 440Mhz (70cm) go the way of 1.25m (220Mhz?).

I'm not a ham, but I do scan the bands via WebSDR and KiwiSDR. I mostly listen to HF, but I do like tuning in 2m and 70cm. Problem is, nobody seems to be around anymore. I've tried stations all over the US and different times of the day, but there's hardly anybody around. The stations seem to be functional (I occationally hear the station ID), there's just nobody home.
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On Mon 28-Jul-2025 2:12p, Mortar M.@1:124/5016.0 said to Rug Rat:

I'm not a ham, but I do scan the bands via WebSDR and KiwiSDR. I mostly listen to HF, but I do like tuning in 2m and 70cm. Problem is, nobody seems to be around anymore. I've tried stations all over the US and different times of the day, but there's hardly anybody around. The stations seem to be functional (I occationally hear the station ID), there's just nobody home.
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Depends largely on your area, So Cal. 70cm used to be very active, in San Diego we had a lot of cool toys on 440, such as HF remote Bases. In the lower end of 440Mhz SSB is where a lot of amateur satalink links, and of course cross band repeating, and let us also not forget 9600bps packet, and fast scan television.

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Rug Rat wrote to Mortar M. <=-

Depends largely on your area, So Cal. 70cm used to be very active, in
San Diego we had a lot of cool toys on 440, such as HF remote Bases.
In the lower end of 440Mhz SSB is where a lot of amateur satalink
links, and of course cross band repeating, and let us also not forget 9600bps packet, and fast scan television.

My ham club is putting up a 220 repeater because we can. I also have a
mobile 220 rig (no idea when I got it). I like 220 since it usually
works inside buildings in my experience.

73,
Sean
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Sean Dennis wrote to Rug Rat <=-

I haven't renewed my ARRL membership in 10 years and I don't know any
hams who are current ARRL members.

I thought about it to help the local club and to get the magazine
but never followed through...






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ARRL lost me ages ago when operation privelages were reduced to Hams that had the Full Amateur spectrum to use if they had Conditional privelages or above. I haven't searched why rhe reduction of frequencies occured and ARRL or FCC or whoever created the restriction(s).

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Jimmy Anderson wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

I thought about it to help the local club and to get the magazine
but never followed through...

I'm staying away from the ARRL until they go back with the way they used
to be and not the money-grubbing org they are now,

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Re: Will we lose 70cm?
By: Ed Vance to Rug Rat on Wed Aug 06 2025 15:09:26

I haven't searched why rhe reduction of frequencies occured and ARRL
or FCC or whoever created the restriction(s).

Any changes regarding frequencies would come from the FCC.
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Re: Will we lose 70cm?
By: Ed Vance to Rug Rat on Wed Aug 06 2025 15:09:26

Any changes regarding frequencies would come from the FCC.
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Somebody would first have to create a petition to The Friendly Country Cousins.
I just haven't researched Who Did It.
I thought some Ham who uses a BBS would see my question and recall the proceeding and the ARRL's responce.

Are there any Amateur Radio Operators who read my post about this who know the scoundrel that began dividing Band Privelages from Conditionals. Generals and Advanced Class(s) Operators for the exclusive use of Amateur Extra Class Operators?

Amateurs who have been licensed for many many years need to operated on frequencies that less experienced Hams use so they can share their knowledge and help those lower class Hams upgrade to higher class license(s).

An older General Class Ham came down to the 80Meter Novice frequency that I and several locals used.
He asked the group about starting a Novice Traffic Net with the idea some of us , when we upgraded to General would want to join the National Traffic System Net in our State later on.

After contacting us on CW He told us he would talk more about this idea to us by telling us more on a 75 Meter freq.

About five of us along with him began using the Novice freq. in the early afternoon for the State Novice Net.

After getting my General Ticket I did start logging into the State Traffic Net in the evening as well as logging in to the Novice Net.

We became closer friends while on Our Net.
Every one of us had a day to be Net Control.

The day I joined the Military was My day as Net Control soI called one of the others and asked him to take my place since I couldn't start the Net.

Another topic is DX.
I ain't a DX'er but dividing up the Band(s) where only one Class can operate and work DX Stations near Their Calling Freq. seem to me to make it hatder on the DX Station to make QSO's to The U.S.A. But that is my thoughts.

As usual I got LW ( Long Winded) again.
73 es be a good LID K
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 14:12:58 -0500
"Mortar M." <mortar.m.@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

Re: Will we lose 70cm?
By: Rug Rat to All on Fri Jul 25 2025 20:16:50

What are you thoughts on this? Will this make 440Mhz (70cm) go
the way of 1.25m (220Mhz?).

I'm not a ham, but I do scan the bands via WebSDR and KiwiSDR. I
mostly listen to HF, but I do like tuning in 2m and 70cm. Problem
is, nobody seems to be around anymore. I've tried stations all over
the US and different times of the day, but there's hardly anybody
around. The stations seem to be functional (I occationally hear the
station ID), there's just nobody home.

The Plano Radio Klub(sic) in Texas has regular Wednesday meetings. They
have a few repeaters you can always try to get into. I hear people in
the evening usually.

https://k5prk.net/
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